dufvasven (January 1, 1970 at 12:59 am)

Well, those that don't want to work for the common good... they would have to cope with the system or not have a system at all. It's like me in a capitalism society, I too work, consume and feed the capitalist with my efforts even if I don't believe in it, but if I started to go against the rules, start ripping the upper class mansions apart, I'd end up in jail. So that's the only (not that great) solution? Keeping them away till they decide the system is okay. :P

O3PEHKO (January 1, 1970 at 12:59 am)

You can argue that Communism worked very well in Yugoslavia, and it did during the life of Tito, but with the passing of the Communist leader in a country dominated by several ethnic groups with three main religions, the bloodshed becomes inevitable. What we saw in the later stages of the breakup of Yugoslavia was a game of divide & conquer by the neocolonialist powers, and Kosovo is a perfect example of this. False media reports, hoaxes to keep the masses busy while concealing the true agenda.

theoutlawjoseywales (January 1, 1970 at 12:59 am)

You may assume most people to be good natured and selfless, and this may even be true in many cases. But that doesn't address those individuals who aren't, so we still have to answer the question of what is to become of them? My point is that, unless you are willing to sanction the use of force in enforcing the collective paradigm, you are not advocating capital-C Communism at all. Rather, you are proposing an anarchy with scattered communes based solely on voluntary participation.

dufvasven (January 1, 1970 at 12:59 am)

Well, why refuse to use your ability? I'm quite certain that a lot of people "get" a lot from being the one doing the most... I mean, helping others is helping yourself to feel meaningful.The ones that have to be helped are the poor ones,even in capitalist societies, nobody wants to be the 'loser' who is helped by others. In communism, society would prevent as many people from getting that low a position. I think the common good is a endless motivator if you've been used and taught the ideal.

theoutlawjoseywales (January 1, 1970 at 12:59 am)

'communism is based on equality'You must've meant to say 'forced equality'. Otherwise, how do you deal with those who possess ability but refuse to use it? So the question is really one of basic self-determination, i.e. do people own themselves, or does the collective?I cannot be convinced to believe that an idividual does not own himself. Therefore, anarchy based on the principles of individual sovereignty, non-aggression, and mutually-voluntary cooperation becomes the only just system.

kelly980 (January 1, 1970 at 12:59 am)

these were not communist countries in any meaninglful sense of the word. They were actaully state-capitalist dictatorships which is something quite different. However it suits the leaders of these countries to claim to their people that they are pursuing communism and are in favour of equality etc. And it also suits leaders of capitalist countries to say that n. korea, soviet russia etc are "communist" in an attempt to portray communism as a system that doesnt work.

hardluckhippie (January 1, 1970 at 12:59 am)

Man those commies can rock.

dannyplaya7 (January 1, 1970 at 12:59 am)

europe and asia all fail stfu ull never be better than the united statesi dont care what u say

profitprophet368 (January 1, 1970 at 12:59 am)

LIGHTS OUTGUERRILLA RADIOTURN THAT shit UP

akicram (January 1, 1970 at 12:59 am)

my country(Hungary) was kingdom ,communist, capitalistand i think the first was the best...